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Kenny and Ben are back to talk about the most despicable villain yet and then also his character in Se7en, who won Best Villain that year. But should that iconic villain have won over the villains of Batman Forever (both of them), Casino and Broken Arrow? Our two experts get to the bottom of it while also talking about if the world is a fine place and/or worth fighting for, if every Jim Carrey villain performance is the same, backstory delivered through news reports, endless montages, that season of 24 where a nuke goes off in LA, and more. Plus listen to the end for a special appearance from Batman?!